Comments on: Does anyone do Agile Development correctly? http://www.rodenkirch.com/2008/09/does-anyone-do-agile-development-correctly/ Web - Technology - Life Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:00:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: James Rodenkirch http://www.rodenkirch.com/2008/09/does-anyone-do-agile-development-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-3 James Rodenkirch Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:17:24 +0000 http://home.rodenkirch.com/?p=3#comment-3 Aaron, thanks for the comments! I do agree with your points, I just have not been in a situation where it was the customer that was hindering agile development, it has always been (in my experience) hindered by the company. Hopefully someday I will be able to experience a true agile environment and see how much it can be affected by customers. I do agree that we are in a paradigm shift, especially with the web. This shift may be part of the issue, but what I have seen is more lack of actual understanding by decision makers. What I am really looking for is help on how to make a successful transition to a true agile environment with an existing code base and a staff of junior developers. Thanks again! Aaron, thanks for the comments!

I do agree with your points, I just have not been in a situation where it was the customer that was hindering agile development, it has always been (in my experience) hindered by the company. Hopefully someday I will be able to experience a true agile environment and see how much it can be affected by customers.

I do agree that we are in a paradigm shift, especially with the web. This shift may be part of the issue, but what I have seen is more lack of actual understanding by decision makers. What I am really looking for is help on how to make a successful transition to a true agile environment with an existing code base and a staff of junior developers.

Thanks again!

]]> By: Aaron Saray http://www.rodenkirch.com/2008/09/does-anyone-do-agile-development-correctly/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Aaron Saray Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:00:11 +0000 http://home.rodenkirch.com/?p=3#comment-2 I agree with most of your points. However, it seems as if you blame a good portion of the lack of agile development on the company or the employers. I would suggest an alternative reason: the users, customers are not willing or accepting of it. They want their product, they want it now, they don't want to be involved. I think about if I were to purchase a car. I want it done and now. I don't want to be involved with the upholstery - just do it. And if I don't like it, I expect you to fix it. I think what the problem is - is that we're running into a paradigm shift. Shops may want to do Agile, but the customer keeps making them do something else. And, as a shop, you have to cater to the needs of the user to pay the bills, unfortunately. I also think a lot of us younger Agile minded developers are doing work for older institutions like banks, insurance, etc, who are very much resistant to that (see your second set of bullet points). Over all, good article. Keep up the good work :) I agree with most of your points. However, it seems as if you blame a good portion of the lack of agile development on the company or the employers. I would suggest an alternative reason: the users, customers are not willing or accepting of it. They want their product, they want it now, they don’t want to be involved. I think about if I were to purchase a car. I want it done and now. I don’t want to be involved with the upholstery – just do it. And if I don’t like it, I expect you to fix it.

I think what the problem is – is that we’re running into a paradigm shift. Shops may want to do Agile, but the customer keeps making them do something else. And, as a shop, you have to cater to the needs of the user to pay the bills, unfortunately. I also think a lot of us younger Agile minded developers are doing work for older institutions like banks, insurance, etc, who are very much resistant to that (see your second set of bullet points).

Over all, good article. Keep up the good work :)

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